Oct 04, 2005 7:15pm Steve Dugas

qb controversy

well it looks like i was proved correct in not picking up a qb this week with the mallards as they lost by 39, i didnt see that brunell or frerotte or wright or bollinger scored that many this week, so im glad i still have the transaction in my pocket

Oct 05, 2005 1:20amKevin Sansone

Steve i think you are missing the point. You didn't even make an effort to get a starting qb this week so that you had a shot at winning. Whether you won or lost is irrelevant, you have to at least try. This is basic stuff that Mr. Smith taught us in like 4th grade.

Oct 05, 2005 8:50amSteve Dugas

Well Kev, I had mrs. rumph for the fourth grade and she taught me not to waste my limited transactions on piece of shit quarterbacks just to appease other people. Every game the mallards have lost this year would have still had the same result even if i had a qb getting me 2 tds a week. Bob gives me shit saying its my 3rd year with this team they should be winning; well its the thugs, refugees, white guys, and huskers 6th 8th and 12th years, maybe they should be winning more games too. Also take a look at the llamas, they've only scored 27 more points than the mallards this season but i bet by the end of the season the mallards have outscored them. Kyle Orton is coming back refreshed this week and the Mallards will BEAT the white guys.

Oct 05, 2005 11:25amKevin Sansone

I actually had Mrs. Rumph too, Mr. Smith taught fifth grade so that was my bad. But let me address your points:
1. Don't even think about bringing the Llamas into this. Outside of the expansion year when they had the #2 pick, I've had the #7 pick and the #6 pick in the following drafts. I was also able to get my quarterback through the waiver wire in 2003. I dumped a useless utility player and picked up a QB so I would have someone to start. It has worked out pretty well so far.
2. It's unfair to mention teams like the Thugs and White Guys and Refugees. They are not expansion teams, they are old teams. It's called turnaround. The Huskers are going through the same thing right now where the guys are getting older and aren't as good as they used to be. Due to the lack of trading in this league, it is difficult to get rid of some these players, unless you cut them outright.
3. So you didn't want to waste your transactions on a starting QB for this week but you were willing to waste your IR move on Devery Henderson?

Oct 05, 2005 11:35amSteve Dugas

kev lets face it, it takes 4 years to build a winner. the huskers and merry men didnt get good till year 4, granted the merry men got really lucky in year #2 when all you needed was two players to win. so look for the mallards to make the jump next year. my job is to manage my teams and it is your job to manage your teams, so dont worry so much about what im doing, im doing what is best for the long term success of this franchise. so until there is some YFFL rule forcing me to pick up a qb when mine have a bye then i will make the judgement call of whether i have a chance to win and should waste the move on one, cuase that is exactly what the move would have been, a wasted move.

Oct 05, 2005 12:27pmMike Kinsman


I cannot sit here and look at your responses without making a comment. The fact of the matter is that you want your team to lose every week. Do you really think Devery Henderson is a valuable transaction? Devery Henderson can go finger his shitter for all I am concerned. Pick up a starting QB and stop beating off to Drew Henson. This league is meant to be competitive and fun. Its not fun when I could start the Helen Keller school for the blind against the Mallards and win. Quarterbacks are the most important players in the game. None of your games would have made a difference if you had started "real" quarterbacks but like Kevin has stated you never made a concious effort to win. Does this mean that whenever a team is mathematically out of the playoff they should stop submitting their lineups??? I believe that you are insulting the integrity, character and competitive spirit that this league was built upon initially. I know that every week I lose I am angry and want to win so badly the next week. I hope everyone else feels this way but also has respect for each team and owner they battle against.

Oct 05, 2005 2:21pmSteve Dugas

Mike - you'll know when I'm trying to lose when you see Mcgahee and Jackson on the bench even though they're perfectly healthy and starting for their teams, much like the Beans of '01 or '02 with Portas. The Mallards have lost their three games by and average of 30 points per game, there isn't a qb in this league that is scoring those type of points that would help me. You're the one with all of the qbs, so why don't you make me an offer - and I don't want that bum David Carr. As far as not wanting to lose each week, I would say I lose more sleep over each loss than anyone else throughout the season. My te has a bye in a couple weeks, to appease everyone should I be picking up another or will it be ok to go with an empty spot.

Oct 05, 2005 4:48pmMike Kinsman

If you think you are going to get Matt Leinart next year you are wrong Dugas! I will not trade you anyone in my stable... That would be like the Red Sox and Yankees making a trade... It just doesn't happen. I vote to liquidate the Mallads franchise and throw all their garbage players in next years draft. McGahee can't shit in his helmet for all I care.

Oct 05, 2005 7:38pmSteve Dugas

"I believe that you are insulting the integrity, character and competitive spirit that this league was built upon initially. " well mike this quote of yours means nothing coming from you. while i know you now turn in your lineups there was a time when everyone in the league looked forward to playing your teams because the chances were pretty high you didnt send in your lineups and we would get to play a team that had half their players on a bye. if you really believed in what was quoted above you wouldnt own the league record for most lineups used with a player on a bye. perhaps jon can make a special section on the YFFL classic page to make note of your accomplishment. it must be like 20 times over the course of 4 years.

Oct 05, 2005 11:16pmMike Kinsman


I never purposely tried to lose games.

Oct 06, 2005 8:29amSteve Dugas

neither have i

Oct 08, 2005 9:28pmAnthony Aceto

Steve, we all know what you are trying to do this year with Leinart, you aren't fooling anyone. If Vince Naimoli can go, so can you. And I know you are going to come back at me with some shit about not getting my lineups in two weeks ago. Just so everyone knows, I was extremely sick for 4 days and it didn't even occur to me that it was sunday. Also, there were times that I could have thrown games last year with the Refugees to get better picks, but I kept at it and almost won the division with a real shitty team that got lucky - therefore I ended up with a shitty pick this year. The fact of the matter is that expansion teams are allowed to lose and expected to lose. This is true with anything, however, if a GM in any sport takes the long term view to look to win 3 years down the road he needs to worry about the short term at the same time, or there won't be a long term. There is a balance that you need to find. I'm not for trying to take action against you, I am just for putting the best team on the field each week, and if you don't do that, then we are going to have a problem with it. It pure and simple takes the integrity out of the competitive spirit of the league.

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